Report Description Table of Contents Introduction And Strategic Context The Global Intellectual Property Licensing Market is projected to reach $21.6 billion by 2030, up from an estimated $13.9 billion in 2024, expanding at a steady CAGR of 7.5% over the forecast period, according to Strategic Market Research. This market sits at the intersection of legal strategy, innovation commercialization, and enterprise value protection. As global competition tightens and intangible assets make up an increasing share of corporate value, intellectual property (IP) licensing has evolved into more than a legal formality — it's now a core strategic lever. From semiconductors and software to pharma, media, and green energy, organizations are turning to licensing not just to monetize their IP portfolios but also to expand into new geographies and technologies without heavy capital outlays. The relevance of IP licensing is growing for a few key reasons. First, there's been a structural shift in global IP creation. Asia, particularly China and South Korea, has surged ahead in patent filings, while the U.S. and Europe remain dominant in brand and software innovation. This shift is creating complex cross-border IP flows — and with it, rising demand for robust licensing frameworks. Second, new monetization models — such as patent pools, FRAND licensing, and blockchain-based royalty tracking — are challenging traditional licensing norms. Governments are also tightening the screws. Regulatory bodies in the U.S., EU, and India have introduced antitrust scrutiny for licensing deals, especially in tech sectors. Licensing terms are now being analyzed through the lens of fair competition, interoperability, and data privacy. For tech startups and universities, IP licensing is becoming a critical path to revenue without scaling manufacturing. In pharma and biotech, licensing deals now routinely cross the billion-dollar threshold, as early-stage developers strike agreements with global incumbents. And in entertainment, the shift to digital content platforms has transformed brand licensing into a growth engine for creators. Key stakeholders in this market include: Technology firms and OEMs looking to cross-license patents Universities and research institutes commercializing public-funded R&D Pharmaceutical and biotech companies monetizing drug discovery pipelines IP aggregators, patent assertion entities, and law firms facilitating or litigating licensing Regulators and standards bodies setting the boundaries on licensing behavior Market Segmentation And Forecast Scope The intellectual property licensing market spans a diverse set of industries, asset types, and licensing structures. To analyze the space effectively, we segment it along four primary dimensions: by type of intellectual property, by industry vertical, by licensing model, and by region. This segmentation reflects how licensing strategies vary depending on the nature of innovation, risk appetite, and monetization goals. By Type of Intellectual Property Patents: This is the largest and most monetized segment in 2024, accounting for over 48% of the market share. Patent licensing dominates in sectors like electronics, life sciences, and automotive. Players engage in defensive cross-licensing, exclusive tech transfers, or portfolio sales — especially around standard-essential patents (SEPs). Trademarks: Used heavily in consumer goods, media, fashion, and sports franchises. Licensing of brand assets enables global reach without direct retail expansion. Think merchandising deals for Disney characters or co-branded food products. Copyrights: Relevant in publishing, software, gaming, and entertainment. Streaming services have intensified demand for copyright licensing, particularly in Asia-Pacific. Trade Secrets: While trickier to license due to enforcement challenges, this segment is gaining traction in sectors like chemical processing and AI algorithm design — where know-how matters more than filings. By Industry Vertical Technology & Electronics: Dominates patent activity, especially in semiconductors, wireless communication, and software. Licensing here is strategic — balancing risk mitigation, access, and monetization. Pharmaceuticals & Biotech: Known for blockbuster licensing deals. Early-stage firms license molecules to global players for co-development and distribution. Royalty structures are typically milestone-based. Media & Entertainment: Drives a large share of trademark and copyright deals. Licensing spans franchises, distribution rights, and digital adaptations. Automotive & Industrial: Patent licensing has become critical with the rise of electric vehicles and ADAS (advanced driver-assistance systems). Suppliers and OEMs are racing to acquire or license technologies across mobility ecosystems. Academia & Research: Universities increasingly rely on IP licensing for tech transfer. Many operate internal offices of technology commercialization, especially in North America and Europe. By Licensing Model Exclusive Licensing: Common in pharma and defense sectors, where the licensee requires full control. Risk is higher, but so is reward. Non-Exclusive Licensing: Popular in software and consumer tech — allowing IP holders to license the same asset to multiple partners. Compulsory Licensing: Regulator-mandated in rare cases (e.g., life-saving drugs during health crises). While small in volume, this model can spark broader debates about access vs. profit. Cross-Licensing & Patent Pools: In industries where overlapping patents are common, these models reduce litigation risk and foster collaboration. For instance, many 5G players are part of patent pools with standardized royalty frameworks. By Region North America: Leads the market in value and litigation activity. The U.S. hosts most major licensing entities and has a robust IP enforcement ecosystem. Europe: Strong in pharma, automotive, and university-driven IP. The Unitary Patent System is reshaping regional licensing dynamics post-Brexit. Asia Pacific: The fastest-growing region. China and South Korea are scaling outbound licensing as their domestic innovation accelerates. Japan maintains a strong legacy in electronics IP. Latin America, Middle East, Africa (LAMEA): Still developing. Licensing here often follows foreign direct investment or is driven by franchising models in consumer goods. Market Trends And Innovation Landscape The intellectual property licensing market is undergoing a quiet transformation — not just in how IP is licensed, but in how it’s valued, enforced, and embedded into corporate strategy. The old model of passive royalty streams is giving way to faster, more flexible, and tech-driven licensing ecosystems. Let’s unpack the key trends shaping the space. Tech-Enabled Licensing is Accelerating IP licensing is finally catching up with digital transformation. Automation and analytics are being layered into how companies track, enforce, and monetize their IP portfolios. Smart contracts, often built on blockchain, are being explored for real-time royalty distribution — especially in music, gaming, and design software. One emerging model? Streaming platforms using tokenized micro-licensing to track usage second-by-second, paying creators instantly across borders. IP management software providers are also integrating valuation models into their platforms. This lets companies assess licensing potential dynamically — factoring in competitive filings, litigation risk, and market overlap. According to several legal-tech analysts, AI will soon predict infringement probability and recommend licensing strategies based on prior court behavior . Rise of IP-as-a-Service Models A newer model gaining traction is IP-as-a-service, where companies outsource both IP development and licensing to specialized firms or consortia. This is particularly common in complex, fast-moving markets like semiconductors and green energy, where the costs of building internal IP teams are too high. In fact, some private equity groups are now acquiring dormant patents and turning them into monetization engines — bundling them by industry or use-case and offering subscription-based access to SMEs that can’t afford full development cycles. Shift Toward Collaborative Licensing Ecosystems Instead of adversarial licensing or aggressive litigation, many players are choosing collaborative frameworks. We’re seeing this most clearly in the form of: Patent pools in 5G, video codecs, and electric vehicle charging Joint licensing initiatives between universities and tech startups Cross-sector collaborations (e.g., pharma and AI firms co-developing diagnostics IP) This shift is partly cultural, but also practical. Litigation costs are high, timelines are long, and outcomes are unpredictable. Collaboration offers faster ROI. Regulatory and Antitrust Scrutiny is Intensifying Licensing arrangements are now squarely on the radar of competition regulators. In the EU and U.S., watchdogs are examining whether certain IP deals — particularly standard-essential patents and platform-based licenses — create unfair lock-ins or market distortions. For example, disputes around FRAND (Fair, Reasonable, and Non-Discriminatory) licensing have spilled into public debates, with calls for more transparency on royalty structures. That said, some governments are moving in the opposite direction — introducing IP commercialization incentives, like tax breaks or expedited patent approval for IP licensed into national industries. Surge in University and Public Sector Licensing Universities are no longer passive IP holders. Many now operate full-scale tech transfer offices, often spinning out startups as part of licensing deals. From CRISPR breakthroughs to quantum computing algorithms, academic IP is commanding serious interest from venture capitalists and corporates alike. One U.S. university generated over $200 million in licensing revenue in 2023 from just five biotech patents. Competitive Intelligence And Benchmarking The intellectual property licensing market is highly fragmented, with participants ranging from global tech giants and life sciences multinationals to university tech-transfer offices and boutique IP firms. The competitive landscape isn’t about product features — it’s about who owns, controls, or brokers the rights to innovate. Let’s break down the key players and how they’re positioning themselves. Qualcomm A dominant force in wireless technology licensing. Its business model hinges on monetizing a vast patent portfolio related to 3G, 4G, and 5G standards. Qualcomm’s licensing strategy is aggressive but well-defended — it has faced regulatory challenges in multiple regions but continues to secure multibillion-dollar licensing agreements with device makers worldwide. Its strength lies in combining innovation leadership with a standardized royalty model that scales globally. IBM While not always top of mind in consumer markets, IBM has long been a powerhouse in IP licensing. The company routinely ranks among the top in U.S. patent filings. Rather than defending IP through litigation, IBM focuses on collaborative licensing, often bundling patents in AI, cloud computing, and enterprise software. The firm’s licensing unit contributes significantly to its bottom line through strategic partnerships and cross-licensing with competitors. InterDigital A classic example of a company built entirely around IP licensing. InterDigital develops foundational technologies in wireless, video, and IoT, and licenses them to manufacturers and platforms. It’s heavily involved in standard-essential patents, and its business model is centered around long-term licensing deals — not product manufacturing. Its ability to enforce its IP through litigation when needed gives it a strong negotiating hand. Philips Philips manages an extensive licensing program across healthcare, consumer electronics, and lighting. It was among the early adopters of patent pooling and collective licensing — especially in imaging technologies. The company has shifted much of its R&D toward digital health, and its licensing activity reflects that focus. It also stands out for monetizing older patents that are no longer tied to its current product lines. Disney A leading name in trademark licensing. Through characters, franchises, and visual IP, Disney monetizes its assets across toys, clothing, food packaging, and global theme parks. The company’s licensing arm is meticulous about brand integrity, enforcing strict terms across partnerships. In the age of streaming, Disney’s licensing has expanded into global content deals, though it has pulled back somewhat to build proprietary platforms like Disney+. GE Healthcare This division has quietly built a strong IP licensing pipeline, especially in medical imaging, diagnostics, and AI-driven hospital systems. GE Healthcare often enters into co-development agreements with startups and research hospitals, using licensing as a way to expand its reach without overextending R&D resources. Tencent In Asia, Tencent is increasingly active in IP licensing related to gaming, AI models, and digital media. With growing outbound licensing efforts, the company is helping shift the region from a consumption-based IP model to one of monetization and export. It also licenses international IP for localized adaptation, especially in gaming. Across these players, three benchmarking themes stand out: Control of Standard-Essential Patents (SEPs) is a major advantage. Companies like Qualcomm and InterDigital hold critical leverage in negotiation, as their technologies underpin entire industries. Diversification across IP types is a strength. Philips, IBM, and GE Healthcare license patents, trademarks, and software in tandem — creating cross-vertical revenue streams. Litigation versus collaboration balance matters. While some firms aggressively protect their IP through courts, others focus on proactive licensing and risk-sharing partnerships. Ultimately, leadership in this market is less about scale and more about how intelligently a company manages its intangible assets. Regional Landscape And Adoption Outlook Geographically, the intellectual property licensing market reflects uneven maturity, shaped by legal systems, innovation output, and enforcement culture. While North America and Europe still dominate in licensing volume and revenue, Asia is moving fast — not just as a buyer of IP, but increasingly as a licensor in its own right. North America This region remains the epicenter of global IP licensing activity, driven largely by the U.S. The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) remains one of the most active globally, and the legal infrastructure to enforce IP rights is well developed. Tech giants based in the U.S. — across semiconductors, software, and biotech — are responsible for a significant portion of outbound licensing deals. Academic institutions in the U.S. are also deeply embedded in licensing ecosystems. Many universities maintain tech transfer offices that operate like early-stage venture arms — scouting for IP monetization opportunities, filing international patents, and negotiating licenses with startups and pharma majors. Enforcement plays a key role here. The U.S. has a robust IP litigation ecosystem, which, while costly, offers strong incentives for compliance. This keeps licensing structures tight and professionally managed. Europe Europe presents a slightly different picture. While the region has strong innovation hubs — especially in Germany, the UK, and France — licensing activity is more cautious, largely due to fragmented patent systems and a more conservative enforcement culture. That’s changing. The rollout of the Unified Patent Court and Unitary Patent System aims to streamline enforcement across member states, making Europe more attractive for centralized licensing. Sectors like pharmaceuticals, automotive engineering, and digital health are especially active in this shift. The EU also leads in regulating fair licensing practices. Debates over standard-essential patents and FRAND terms are most active here, pushing companies to adopt more transparent and non-discriminatory licensing models. Asia Pacific Asia Pacific is the fastest-growing IP licensing region globally. While historically seen as a region where IP was consumed — often with loose enforcement — that narrative is evolving fast. China, South Korea, and Japan now rank among the top global filers of patents, particularly in electronics, AI, and telecom. China, in particular, has undergone a dramatic shift. Not only has its domestic IP regime tightened, but Chinese companies like Huawei, ZTE, and Tencent are now major licensors. They’re striking outbound deals in Europe, the U.S., and Southeast Asia — flipping the script on historical IP flows. Japan maintains strength in electronics and automotive IP. South Korea is catching up, especially in battery technology and display innovation. Meanwhile, ASEAN markets such as Singapore and Malaysia are positioning themselves as IP-friendly zones for foreign investment and regional licensing deals. Interestingly, governments across Asia are now offering tax incentives and grants for IP commercialization — accelerating the creation of cross-border licensing channels. Latin America, Middle East, and Africa (LAMEA) In this region, IP licensing is still emerging. Legal systems for IP enforcement remain underdeveloped in many countries, and awareness among local businesses is often limited. Most licensing activity is inbound — through franchises, joint ventures, or foreign tech transfers. Brazil shows potential in biotechnology and agritech IP, while the UAE is investing heavily in becoming a hub for AI and fintech IP frameworks. Still, the lack of harmonized IP regimes across these regions makes consistent licensing practices difficult to implement. However, international bodies like WIPO are working to bridge the gap. Pilot programs for IP awareness and licensing facilitation are underway in Africa and Latin America, aimed at improving local innovation commercialization. There’s real white space here. Multinational companies that build IP education and licensing infrastructure into their go-to-market strategy in these regions could gain long-term loyalty and licensing footholds. End-User Dynamics And Use Case Unlike product markets with clear consumer or institutional buyers, the intellectual property licensing space is characterized by complex, multi-tiered end users — each engaging with IP for different strategic reasons. From large corporations and research institutions to small tech startups and law firms, the motivations for licensing vary drastically. Let’s explore the core end-user segments and how each leverages IP licensing. Technology Companies Large tech firms are among the most active IP licensors and licensees. Companies in semiconductors, wireless communications, and software routinely engage in cross-licensing to avoid litigation, access complementary technologies, or enter new markets. These firms often maintain internal IP departments that track global patent filings and negotiate licensing agreements proactively. Smaller tech startups, on the other hand, often license in key technologies they can’t build in-house. This enables them to accelerate go-to-market without violating existing patents — particularly important in fast-moving fields like AI, cybersecurity, and quantum computing. For many of these startups, licensing is not optional — it’s a survival strategy. Pharmaceutical and Biotech Firms This group heavily depends on licensing as a commercialization engine. Small biotech firms license novel compounds or drug delivery platforms to large pharmaceutical companies that have the regulatory experience and global distribution needed to scale. Conversely, big pharma often licenses in university research or niche innovations to fill pipeline gaps. Royalty structures in this space are typically multi-layered — including upfront payments, development milestones, regulatory approvals, and post-launch sales benchmarks. Academic and Research Institutions Universities are no longer just origin points of innovation; they are becoming structured licensors. Most major institutions — especially in North America, the UK, and Japan — have technology transfer offices (TTOs) that actively seek licensees for innovations in life sciences, engineering, and computing. TTOs negotiate licensing deals either with startups formed by researchers or with established companies interested in commercializing university-developed IP. This model has become so successful that some universities generate tens of millions annually from licensing revenue — reinvesting it into further research. Media and Entertainment Companies In this space, trademarks and copyrights are the key assets. Licensing covers everything from character merchandising and distribution rights to localization and adaptation for international markets. End users here include broadcasters, streaming platforms, toy manufacturers, and video game studios. The speed and volume of digital content distribution have pushed these companies to adopt more automated rights management systems — integrating digital watermarking, real-time licensing platforms, and AI tools for rights enforcement. Manufacturing and Automotive Firms These firms are increasingly turning to licensing to gain access to electrification, automation, and safety technologies without developing them from scratch. In automotive, for example, licensing agreements between OEMs and LiDAR or battery IP holders are now a regular part of the supply chain strategy. Also, with industry convergence on the rise — like tech players entering mobility and energy — manufacturing firms are learning to engage in IP strategy as a core competency. Legal and Advisory Firms While not end users in the traditional sense, these players are instrumental in structuring, enforcing, and advising on licensing strategies. Law firms and IP consultants are often the intermediaries in cross-border deals, especially in high-stakes litigation or when navigating FRAND compliance in telecom and software sectors. Use Case: Academic Licensing Fuels Biotech Innovation A biotech startup in Boston, spun out of a university medical school, licensed two early-stage patents related to mRNA delivery systems. Rather than building lab infrastructure from scratch, the firm used the university's existing research facilities under a hybrid license/incubation agreement. Within 18 months, the startup secured a partnership with a multinational pharma company that offered an exclusive license for development and commercialization — with an initial $10 million milestone payment and potential royalties on future sales. Recent Developments + Opportunities & Restraints Recent Developments (Past 2 Years) Qualcomm and Apple settled their long-running patent dispute, renewing a multi-year chipset supply agreement that included IP licensing for future iPhones. The deal signaled renewed alignment between two major players amid rising 5G patent complexity. China’s Huawei signed multiple outbound licensing deals with major automotive manufacturers to supply patented 5G and wireless technologies for connected vehicles. This marks Huawei’s strategic pivot from hardware to IP monetization. The European Union launched the Unitary Patent System in mid-2023, aiming to simplify IP protection across 17 EU member states. The move is expected to reduce costs and streamline enforcement for pan-European licensing deals. Netflix partnered with multiple gaming studios to license intellectual property from original series into mobile and console games. This reflects a growing trend of cross-format IP exploitation in entertainment. South Korea’s Samsung Bioepis expanded its biosimilar licensing agreements in North America and Europe, including new deals with partners in oncology and ophthalmology. Licensing remains a key part of its international growth model. Opportunities Growing IP creation in emerging markets: Countries like India, Brazil, and Vietnam are ramping up innovation ecosystems. Licensing demand is expected to rise as domestic companies seek to monetize their patents abroad and access international tech. AI-driven valuation and contract management: New tools powered by machine learning are helping licensors automate IP audits, benchmark licensing rates, and track usage. This unlocks licensing potential for smaller players who previously lacked in-house legal teams. Sustainability and cleantech innovation: As green technologies scale, companies are using licensing to speed up global deployment of solar IP, battery patents, and carbon capture techniques — particularly in countries with limited R&D infrastructure. Restraints High legal and enforcement costs: Many licensing deals stall due to the expense of IP valuation, cross-border legal filings, and compliance tracking. This is especially burdensome for SMEs and academic institutions. Regulatory scrutiny of royalty models: Authorities in the U.S., EU, and India are investigating whether some licensing practices — particularly those tied to standard-essential patents — are anti-competitive. This has led to greater complexity in deal structuring. 7.1. Report Coverage Table Report Attribute Details Forecast Period 2024 – 2030 Market Size Value in 2024 USD 13.9 Billion Revenue Forecast in 2030 USD 21.6 Billion Overall Growth Rate CAGR of 7.5% (2024 – 2030) Base Year for Estimation 2023 Historical Data 2019 – 2023 Unit USD Million, CAGR (2024 – 2030) Segmentation By Type of Intellectual Property, Industry Vertical, Licensing Model, Region By Type of IP Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Trade Secrets By Industry Vertical Technology & Electronics, Pharmaceuticals & Biotech, Media & Entertainment, Automotive & Industrial, Academia & Research By Licensing Model Exclusive Licensing, Non-Exclusive Licensing, Compulsory Licensing, Cross-Licensing & Patent Pools By Region North America, Europe, Asia Pacific, Latin America, Middle East & Africa Country Scope U.S., China, Germany, Japan, UK, South Korea, Brazil, India, UAE Market Drivers - Rising global IP creation and monetization - Strategic use of cross-border licensing - Emergence of IP-as-a-service and blockchain-based licensing Customization Option Available upon request Frequently Asked Question About This Report Q1: How big is the intellectual property licensing market? A1: The global intellectual property licensing market was valued at USD 13.9 billion in 2024, with growth expected through 2030. Q2: What is the CAGR for the forecast period? A2: The market is projected to expand at a CAGR of 7.5% from 2024 to 2030. Q3: Who are the major players in this market? A3: Leading participants include Qualcomm, IBM, InterDigital, Philips, Disney, GE Healthcare, and Tencent. Q4: Which region dominates the market share? A4: North America leads the market due to its mature IP legal framework and strong innovation infrastructure. Q5: What factors are driving this market? A5: The market is driven by increased cross-border IP activity, digital transformation of licensing, and rising IP commercialization efforts in emerging economies. Table of Contents – Global Intellectual Property Licensing Market Report (2024–2030) Executive Summary Market Overview Market Attractiveness by Type of Intellectual Property, Industry Vertical, Licensing Model, and Region Strategic Insights from Key Executives (CXO Perspective) Historical Market Size and Future Projections (2019–2030) Summary of Market Segmentation by Type of Intellectual Property, Industry Vertical, Licensing Model, and Region Market Share Analysis Leading Players by Revenue and Market Share Market Share Analysis by Type of Intellectual Property, Industry Vertical, and Licensing Model Investment Opportunities in the Intellectual Property Licensing Market Key Developments and Innovations Mergers, Acquisitions, and Strategic Partnerships High-Growth Segments for Investment Market Introduction Definition and Scope of the Study Market Structure and Key Findings Overview of Top Investment Pockets Research Methodology Research Process Overview Primary and Secondary Research Approaches Market Size Estimation and Forecasting Techniques Market Dynamics Key Market Drivers Challenges and Restraints Impacting Growth Emerging Opportunities for Stakeholders Impact of Regulatory and Technological Factors Global Trends in IP Licensing and Monetization Global Intellectual Property Licensing Market Analysis Historical Market Size and Volume (2019–2023) Market Size and Volume Forecasts (2024–2030) Market Analysis by Type of Intellectual Property: Patents Trademarks Copyrights Trade Secrets Market Analysis by Industry Vertical: Technology & Electronics Pharmaceuticals & Biotech Media & Entertainment Automotive & Industrial Academia & Research Market Analysis by Licensing Model: Exclusive Licensing Non-Exclusive Licensing Compulsory Licensing Cross-Licensing & Patent Pools Market Analysis by Region: North America Europe Asia Pacific Latin America Middle East & Africa Regional Market Analysis North America Intellectual Property Licensing Market Analysis Historical Market Size and Volume (2019–2023) Market Size and Volume Forecasts (2024–2030) Market Analysis by Type of IP, Industry Vertical, and Licensing Model Country-Level Breakdown United States Canada Europe Intellectual Property Licensing Market Analysis Historical Market Size and Volume (2019–2023) Market Size and Volume Forecasts (2024–2030) Market Analysis by Type of IP, Industry Vertical, and Licensing Model Country-Level Breakdown Germany United Kingdom France Rest of Europe Asia Pacific Intellectual Property Licensing Market Analysis Historical Market Size and Volume (2019–2023) Market Size and Volume Forecasts (2024–2030) Market Analysis by Type of IP, Industry Vertical, and Licensing Model Country-Level Breakdown China Japan South Korea India Rest of Asia Pacific Latin America Intellectual Property Licensing Market Analysis Historical Market Size and Volume (2019–2023) Market Size and Volume Forecasts (2024–2030) Market Analysis by Type of IP, Industry Vertical, and Licensing Model Country-Level Breakdown Brazil Mexico Rest of Latin America Middle East & Africa Intellectual Property Licensing Market Analysis Historical Market Size and Volume (2019–2023) Market Size and Volume Forecasts (2024–2030) Market Analysis by Type of IP, Industry Vertical, and Licensing Model Country-Level Breakdown GCC Countries South Africa Rest of Middle East & Africa Key Players and Competitive Analysis Leading Key Players: Qualcomm IBM InterDigital Philips Disney GE Healthcare Tencent Competitive Landscape and Strategic Insights Benchmarking Based on IP Portfolio Strength, Global Licensing Reach, and Monetization Strategy Appendix Abbreviations and Terminologies Used in the Report References and Sources List of Tables Market Size by Type of IP, Industry Vertical, Licensing Model, and Region (2024–2030) Regional Market Breakdown by Segment Type (2024–2030) List of Figures Market Drivers, Challenges, and Opportunities Regional Market Snapshot Competitive Landscape by Market Share Growth Strategies Adopted by Key Players Market Share by Type of IP, Industry Vertical, and Licensing Model (2024 vs. 2030)